My Interview with 'SATRANGI SANSAAR'

“Hkkstiqjh ds fnu t#j cnysaxs”

Hkkstiqjh laxhr dh nqfu;k esa vkt u rks deys’k flag u;k uke gSa vkSj uk gh mudh daiuh ekbZyLVksu E;wftdA ekbZyLVksu dk HkfDr ,yce “ebZ;k ikao iStfu;k” fdlh “h {ksf=; “k"kk esa lokZf/kd fcdzh okys ,yce esa ’kqekj gSA ekbZyLVksu viuh vkWfM;ks@fofM;ks fons’kksa esa Hkh ,DLiksVZ djrh gSA ekbZyLVksu ds tfj, deys’k flag us Hkkstiqjh ds dbZ ,sls dykdkjksa dks LFkkfir fd;k ftudh vkt vyx igpku gSA deys’k ekbZyLVksu ds cSuj rys cgqr tYn nks Hkkstiqjh fQYesa Hkh ysdj vk jgs gSaA Hkkstiqjh xhr&laxhr vkSj fQYeksa dh orZeku n’kk ls nq[kh deys’k dks Hkjkslk gS fd Hkkstiqjh dh rLohj ,d fnu t#j cnysxh vkSj rdnhj HkhA lrjaxh lalkj ds ikBdksa ds fy, deys’k flag us latho pkS/kjh ds lkFk ckrphr esa dbZ lokyksa ds csckd tckc fn,A izLrqr gS bl ckrphr ds izeq[k va’k---

latho pkS/kjh %& lcls igys rks vkidks <+sj lkjh c/kkbZ vkSj ’kqHkdkeuk;sa dh vkius brus de mez esa [kqn dks vkSj ekbZyLVksu dks lQyrk ds bl eqdke rd igqapk;k vkSj oks “h vius ne ijA

deys’k flag %& /kU;okn---- ;s lc rks cM+s&cqtwxksZa dk vkf’kokZn vkSj mij okys dh d`ik gS ftudh cnkSyr eq>s vPNs yksx vkSj lgdehZ feysa] ftuds lg;ksx ds fcuk ;s laHko ugha FkkA oSls eq>s ugha yxrk fd eSa vHkh dgha igqap ik;k gwWaA vHkh rks cl ’kq#vkr dh gSA

latho pkS/kjh %& lcls igys gekjs ikBdksa dks vius ckjs esa crk;sa] vius tkfr&ftUnxh ds ckjs esaA

deys’k flag %& oSls rks ge yksx Nijk ds jgus okys gSa ysfdu pqfd esjs firk cksdkjks LVhy IykaV esa dk;Zjr Fks blfy, cpiu ls ysdj Lukrd rd dh f’k{kk nh{kk cksdkjks esa gha gqbZA esjs cM+s HkkbZ lkgc ukVdksa esa dke fd;k djrs Fks vkSj ’kgj ds lcls pfpZr fFk,Vj ilZukYVh FksA rks ogha ls ukVd djus dk ’kkSd p<+k tks ckn esa tquwu cu x;kA fQj dkWyst [kRe djus ds ckn ekl dE;wfuds’ku djus fnYyh vk x;k vkSj vc vkids lkeus gwWaA

latho pkS/kjh %& vkius ekl dE;wfuds’ku djus ds ckn dkQh lkjh VsfyfQYesa] MkWD;wesaVªªh vkSj dkWjiksjsV fQYeksa dk fuekZ.k fd;k] fQj ,dk,d laxhr ds {ks= esa dSls vkuk gqvk \

deys’k flag %& oSls bl {ks= esa vkuk ,dk,d rks ugha gqvk] ij gka brus vkxs rd dh dksbZ ;kstuk ugh Fkh ml oDrA ge rhu&pkj yksx Fks tks pkgrs Fks fd Hkkstiqjh esa dqN vPNk vkSj vyx djsaA ge lHkh vius&vius {ks= esa lQy Fks rks geus ,d iz;ksx ds rkSj ij ekbZyLVksu E;wftd dh ’kq#vkr dhA gekjk iz;ksx lQy jgk vkSj ,d ds ckn ,d dbZ lQy ,yce nsdj ge ml oDr Hkkstiqjh dh uacj ,d E;wftd dEiuh cu x,A oSls vkt Hkh gekjh dEiuh ns’k dh VkWi rhu&pkj E;wftd dEiuh;ksa esa gS tks Hkkstiqjh laxhr esa Mhy djrh gSaA     

latho pkS/kjh %& Hkkstiqjh laxhr ds orZeku n’kk vkSj fn’kk ds ckjs esa vki dh lksap D;k gSA

deys’k flag %& Hkkstiqjh laxhr dh n’kk dk vanktk vki blh ls yxk ldrs gSa fd vc ?kj&ifjokj esa yksx Hkkstiqjh xkusa ugha lqursA vktdy cl ,d cgqr gha NksVk vkSj [kkl oxZ gS tks bu xkuksa dks ns[k vkSj lqu jgk gSA vkSj ;gh gky Hkkstiqjh fQYeksa dk Hkh gSA vPNs vkSj lq/kh n’kZd o Jksrk v’yhyrk vkSj HkkSaMsiu dh otg ls Hkkstiqjh ls dV x, gSaA bldk ,d cgqr cM+k dkj.k ;s gS fd vc E;wftd dEiuh;ka uk rks ,yceksa is iSls [kpZ dj jgh gSa vkSj uk gha /;ku ns jgh gSaA D;ksadh vktdy isu MªªkbZo vkSj eksckbZy fpi dh otg ls ,yceksa dh fcdzh uk ds cjkcj jg xbZ gSA ,sls esa dEiuh;ksa ds fy, viuh ykxr olwy ikuk Hkh dBhu gks x;k gSA rks vktdy tks ,yce o lhMh vki ns[k lqu jgs gSa oks xk;d [kqn vius iSls ls cuk ds yk jgs gSa vkSj dEiuh;ka flQZ mUgsa fjyht dj jgh gSaA dgus dk eryc ;s fd vc dEiuh;ka xk;d dk pquko ugha djrha cfYd xk;d dEiuh dk pquko dj jgs gSaA ,sls esa vki D;k mEehn dj ldrs gSa \

latho pkS/kjh %& vkidh ut+j esa Hkkstiqjh xhr&laxhr dks bl fLFkrh ls ckgj fudkyus dk D;k mik; gS \

deys’k flag %& nsf[k;s] bldk dksbZ ’kkWVZ&dV QkeqZyk rks gS ughaA esjk ekuuk gS fd tSls vPNs vkSj cqM+s fnu vkrs tkrs jgrs gSa] oSls gha ;s nkSj Hkh fudy tk,xk vkSj fQj ls Hkkstiqjh esa vPNs o Lrjh; xhr & laxhr dk cksyckyk gksxkA ge yksx blds fy, yxs gq, gSaA vkSj Hkh dbZ yksx o laLFkk;sa bl fn’kk esa iz;Ru’khy gSaA rks Hkkstiqjh ds fnu t#j cnysaxs] gka FkksM+k oDr rks yxsxkA

latho pkS/kjh %& geus lquk gS fd vki viuh dEiuh ds cSuj rys Hkkstiqjh fQYeksa ds fuekZ.k o forj.k esa Hkh mÙkj jgs gSa \ D;k blds ihNs Hkh dksbZ vyx lksap gS \

deys’k flag %& vkius fcYdqy Bhd lquk gSA ge cgqr tYn ekbZyLVksu fQYe ,.M baVjVsUesaV ds cSuj ls nks fQYesa ykWap dj jgs gSaA ftuesa ,d dk funsZ’ku eSa [kqn dj jgk gwWaA nksuks gha fQYeksa ds iVdFkk dk dke vafre nkSj esa gSA lkFk gha geus fQYe forj.k dk dke Hkh ’kq# dj fn;k gSA bu lcds ihNs lksap cl bruk lk gS fd dkfcy vkSj izksQs’kuy yksxksa dks T;knk ls T;knk ekSdk feys tks vPNk vkSj Lrjh; dke djsaA    

latho pkS/kjh %& vktdy Hkkstiqjh esa ftl rjg dh fQYesa cu jgh gSa muds ckjs esa vkidk D;k [;ky gS \

deys’k flag %& esjk ekuuk gS fd Hkkstiqjh flusek vius ladze.k dky ls xqtj jgk gSA vkius ck<+ ns[kh gksxhA tc ck<+ vkrk gS rks ikuh vius lkFk lc dqN cgk ds ys tkrk gSA ysfdu tSls&tSls ck<+ ds ikuh dk osx de gksrk tkrk gS ikuh ds lkFk cgrk dqM+k&dpjk o fdpj jkLrs esa gha NqVrk tkrk gSA vkSj ,d lhek ds ckn flQZ ikuh gha jg tkrk gSA vHkh Hkkstiqjh flusek mlh ck<+ okyh fLFkrh ls xqtj jgk gSA ftls flusek dk lh ugh irk oks Hkh flusek cuk jgk gSA ftudks dSesjk ,axy fdl cyk dk uke gS ;s Hkh ekyqe ugh gS oks funsZ’ku dj jgs gSaA iVdFkk ds uke ij uCcs ds n’kd ds fdlh fgUnh fQYe ;k fQj nf{k.k Hkkjrh; fdlh fQYe dks gqcgw dkWih Hkj dj ysuk gSA ,sls esa vxj lHkh fQYesa ,d lh gha ut+j vk jgh gSa rks blesa vk’p;Z dSlk \

latho pkS/kjh %& rks ,sls esa Hkkstiqjh flusek ds Hkfo"; dks ysdj vki fdrus vk’kkfUor gSa \  

deys’k flag %& tc Hkkstiqjh flusek dk ;s ladze.k dky ftls ge gfuewu ihfj;M Hkh dg ldrs gSa [kRe gks tk,xk rks tks Hkh bl izdkj ds vuizksQs’kuy o vuVªªsaM yksx gSa oks [kqn c [kqn ckgj gks tk;saxsA fQj ogh yksx jg tk;saxs tks izksQs’kuy vkSj dkfcy gksaxsA vkSj tc vbls yksx fQYesa cuk;saxs rks tkfgj rkSj ij Hkkstiqjh flusek dk Lrj mij mBsxkA fQj n’kZdksa dks Hkkstiqjh esa Hkh ubZ o ekSfyd dgkuh;ka ns[kus dks feysaxh rFkk rdfudh #i ls Hkh mRd`"V fQYesa cusaxhA rks tgka rd Hkkstiqjh flusek ds Hkfo"; dk loky gS--- eq>s rks oks dkQh mTtoy fn[krk gSA

latho pkS/kjh %& vc vkf[kj esa ,d O;fDrxr loky--- vki LekVZ gSa] ;ax gSa] O;olkf;d #i ls dkQh lQy Hkh gSa] fQj vkius vHkh rd ’kknh D;ksa ugha fd \ dksbZ [kkl otg \

deys’k flag %& vjs ugha HkkbZ] dksbZ [kkl otg ugh gSA cl dHkh le; gha ugha feyrk bl ckjs esa lksapus ds fy,A ;k fQj ;s Hkh dg ldrs gSa fd ’kk;n vHkh rd dksbZ ,slh feyh gha ugha ftldks ysdj lhjh;lyh dqN lksap ldwaA tc dksbZ oSlh fey tk,xh fQj ’kknh Hkh dj ysaxsA

latho pkS/kjh %& vkius viuh O;Lrrk ds ckotwn lrjaxh lalkj ls ckrfpr ds fy, le; fudkyk vkSj brus csckd o lVhd <+x ls vius fopkj gekjs lkFk ckVsa mlds fy, vkidk cgqr&cgqr /kU;okn----

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